I agree with creationists at least on one point, intelligent design. ID doesn't have to express itself through literal creation though. As a matter of fact, when one tries to figure out how dinosaurs came to existence, what is more plausible, a full size dino surging from the ground (because if the first man was created out of the soil, dinos had too, hadn't they), or God causing a small mutation in the embryo of an animal the parents of which were not quite dinos yet, but that would be close enough in appearance to its mother so that she would still recognize it as her cub and would look after it as such ? In that way new species could have appeared, sort of evolution directed by God himself. That Hypothesis would explain the design, which to many is just evident, and would spare us the indigestible practical aspects of literal creation.
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good analogy
by jam iniam sure many of you here have heard this comment when you were a jw..is this a good analogy to prove.
creationism?
if you have a automobile that have not been assemble how long will it take without any.
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by purplesofa ini was raised catholic.. the immaculate conception of christ defied all logic to me, even as a child.
it seems to me, christianity has borrowed something from the pagans.. .
i am reading god against the gods by johnathan kirsh~the history of the war between monotheism and polytheism.
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aligot ripounsous
Purps, having been a catholic for about 25 years, brought up in confessional schools, etc, I seem to remember that the immaculate conception is referring to Mary herself, not to Jesus' birth, i.e. the Church teaches that only a perfect woman could have given birth to a god, so she is believed to have been born without the original sin, and in the same vein, it is taught that she never died, because death is corruption and she can't have been corrupted, that's why they celebrate Assumption of Mary on Aug 15th that is, her transfer to heaven before death, a bit like what the WTS teaches about Enoch.
This is not related to the very question you raise in your thread but, since I've no real valid opinion to express on the latter, this is my small take.
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Wow, They gave a special needs talk specially for me !
by aligot ripounsous inas i was taking a week off with my family, i was told, when back, that a talk had been given during the mid week meeting, in connection with special needs of the congregation.
it was all about how not to associate with a so-called brother who gives too critical comments at the wt meeting about jehovah's organization and tries to lead astray the spiritually weak members of the congregation, and things alike.
of course, everybody understood that i was the target.
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aligot ripounsous
Rebel,
If your question is for me, I've no answer to it. It just seems to me (I've no statistics, just hearsay and reading articles about AIDS, hepatitis B, to cite 2 among the main infections) that, on the whole, transfusions have caused more damage than good, let aside the fact that it is a scandalous business, raw product being provided free (most of the time) or bought from poor people and being sold at very high price for the rich. How compelling would be my conviction if I were personally confronted to a problem like haemophilia, I just don't know. To me God's command about blood is like the Ten Words, Israelites knew what were the right things to do, still someone would steal if starving and Jehovah would understand circumstances. He for sure knows all the ins and outs of our actions and is the sole judge.
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Wow, They gave a special needs talk specially for me !
by aligot ripounsous inas i was taking a week off with my family, i was told, when back, that a talk had been given during the mid week meeting, in connection with special needs of the congregation.
it was all about how not to associate with a so-called brother who gives too critical comments at the wt meeting about jehovah's organization and tries to lead astray the spiritually weak members of the congregation, and things alike.
of course, everybody understood that i was the target.
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aligot ripounsous
How did you get away with just being marked ?
As I said in earlier posts, I always endeavoured to back my shootings with biblical texts, the spirit of which they couldn't deny. And I tell them that I'm not intent on proselytizing my opinions, which is totally untrue, of course. It worked out for a certain time, until they thought it was too much for them to countenance.
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Wow, They gave a special needs talk specially for me !
by aligot ripounsous inas i was taking a week off with my family, i was told, when back, that a talk had been given during the mid week meeting, in connection with special needs of the congregation.
it was all about how not to associate with a so-called brother who gives too critical comments at the wt meeting about jehovah's organization and tries to lead astray the spiritually weak members of the congregation, and things alike.
of course, everybody understood that i was the target.
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aligot ripounsous
Yes Kudra, I'm a frenchman living in a large french city. As you can see, things have ended up on this side not very differently from what they would turn out in any other part of WT land, all the same.
Undercover, it is definitely an isolating enterprise to protect the flock.
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Wow, They gave a special needs talk specially for me !
by aligot ripounsous inas i was taking a week off with my family, i was told, when back, that a talk had been given during the mid week meeting, in connection with special needs of the congregation.
it was all about how not to associate with a so-called brother who gives too critical comments at the wt meeting about jehovah's organization and tries to lead astray the spiritually weak members of the congregation, and things alike.
of course, everybody understood that i was the target.
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aligot ripounsous
As I was taking a week off with my family, I was told, when back, that a talk had been given during the mid week meeting, in connection with special needs of the congregation. It was all about how not to associate with a so-called brother who gives too critical comments at the WT meeting about jehovah's organization and tries to lead astray the spiritually weak members of the congregation, and things alike. Of course, everybody understood that I was the target. It was a direct result of a recent sheperding call two elders gave me, which was rather tense and that I reported in an earlier post http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/politics/171477/1/Getting-on-with-it
Conclusion of the matter, the congregation was strongly requested to "mark" me (I thought that it was a personal decision but anyway). The positive side of it, apart from the fact that from now on I will consider myself as just accompanying my wife to the WE meeting, is that I was able to make the account of my friends on the very first sunday meeting I attended when back. I was told that a sister was so shocked by the sectarian ring of the talk that she stood up right in the middle of it and retreated in the back room, so as not to hear more. Quite a courageous move, indeed. So here I am, let's say 3/4 outed, was predictable.
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May 15th Watchtower - New Light?
by slimboyfat inthe new watchtower asks the question: "when was satan cast out of heaven?
- rev 12:1-9".
and the answer it gives is: "so, then, the bible does not reveal the exact time when satan and his demons were expelled from heaven.
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Nevertheless it is evident that this event closely followed the enthronement of Jesus Christ in heaven in 1914."
Well, if the FDS says it is evident, it must be so. But why then didn't we know earlier ?
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Has Leolaia moved to Oxford, England ?
by aligot ripounsous incan't help being impressed by similar profiles of our leolaia and that young british student, gail trimble, who won the university challenge on bbc 4: they both are linguistic scholars in latin and greek and, yes, they even look alike, imo.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/feb/22/university-challenge-trimble.
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How disappointing ! I mean, not that she lost the challenge but she posed for the Telegraph. I had idealised her and now, all that I'll remember are horsish dentures. Love at first sight is so volatile.
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Has Leolaia moved to Oxford, England ?
by aligot ripounsous incan't help being impressed by similar profiles of our leolaia and that young british student, gail trimble, who won the university challenge on bbc 4: they both are linguistic scholars in latin and greek and, yes, they even look alike, imo.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/feb/22/university-challenge-trimble.
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maybe later this year. Might be a good outlet for my writing. Especially if this board continues to focus more and more on politics and other non-religious stuff.
By all means, Leolaia, stay on JWD, That won't keep you from setting up your own blog, you add meat on the bone of a site which has already lost too many sustancial posters.
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Has Leolaia moved to Oxford, England ?
by aligot ripounsous incan't help being impressed by similar profiles of our leolaia and that young british student, gail trimble, who won the university challenge on bbc 4: they both are linguistic scholars in latin and greek and, yes, they even look alike, imo.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/feb/22/university-challenge-trimble.
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aligot ripounsous
Hopefully she will become a scholar whose work I will get to read in the literature in the coming years.
So far the best thing we are sure of is that she will crush any contender standing in her way at Trivial Pursuit. Let's see now how articulate her thinking is which, honestly, we have no real reason to doubt about. Nice girl.